With telegram we lack history, so if something gets talked about it can
then get forgotten
(when I mentioned discourse in telegram I was told to raise it on the
mailing list for this reason)
in other words telegram = fancier version of irc
Agreed to some extent, but we can have history, and you can scroll back
quite a way on telegram - and we could likely capture it all with a bot
anyhow. Regardless, telegram should be a chat room, not really for airing
long term plots to build an empire. That’s what email is for. Merging the
two is likely to irritate both groups of users.
I’m not sure where you got the idea of replacing telegram came from, this
is more of a replacement for the mailing list / trello.
Telegram is a live chat app it doesn’t replace that one
discourse seems to have history in the same way the mailing list does
but it also has the benefits you get with a forum (sort of like a forum /
mailing list hybrid)
In that it separates out the messages into groups, with a fancy web front
end for attaching videos / images etc
Soooo you mean kinda exactly like gmail? It separates emails with the same
header into conversations? And ‘fancy web front end’ sounds like somthing
shiny to lust after. Email can happily cope with links and attachments.
Like I said it’s more like a forum in that you have groups setup before
hand instead of relying on subject lines within emails
So for example you might have one group for notifications about Farnell
orders, which some would be interested in but others would ignore
You could also subscribe to a group in such a way that you get an email
whenever there’s a new message just within that group (or just view it via
the web gui)
Or I could filter, highlight, delete and mark as opened emails through an
email client. Once again, not exactly revolutionary.
Or not get the emails in the first place, because you might only have an
interest in cosplay vs woodwork for example or craft or welding or laser
maintenance
Effectively your creating sub-groups that you can just subscribe to
independently (or view everything)
My thoughts are if we remove the consideration of mailing everyone with
every email, it might encourage more non-telegram messages in different
areas where we can maintain history.
Telegram is good for live chat, but it’s history tends to evaporate over
time (I think the history only goes as far back as when you joined)
As a way around that there are trello lists currently setup. I see this
more of a way of merging trello / the mailing list more than anything else
As another example if you want to see all messages from everywhere, there’s
a Latest Tab on the top
This sorts all new messages in chronological order from latest at the top
to oldest at the bottom, similar to the current mailing list view under
Google Groups
I think the main difference between discourse and a mailing list is it’s
filtering ability, using groups and categories instead of the subject line
for filtering.
Really this sounds entirely unnecessary to me, and as I said, yet another
site to use and check, and to get our users on to. Anything this can do, an
email client can do, and would likely have to do all over again for those
of us already using that functionality (recoding filters etc). It really
sounds like somthing shiny to lust after.
My thoughts are it wouldn’t be something additional, instead it would
replace the existing mailing list and possibly trello
I think you could set it up so that any emails inbound to the main mailing
list address would just go into an uncatalogued group
But as Bob has said ideally we’d need to setup a demo just to see what it
does, to see if there’s any interest
