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Hi all

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

It is a very good space, is a lot bigger than it looks in the pics.
Secure, has loads of car park space for giant robots or parking
cars… not quite Stockport I know, but it is the best thing for the
price offered I can find. Electricity wise, the owner is willing to
throw in for 10quid a week but I’m sure we can get it included with
the rent of 80pw.

Anyway, what do you think?

320 / 5 = £64pcm each
320 / 10 = £32pcm each
320 / 15 = £21pcm each

Andrew (ody)

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YES

seems like we’d be able to do a lot more with it than with a place thats
also used for companies.

The map doesnt show it, but theres a big tesco & a wickes near there, and
its close to the route of the #11 and #371 busses from stockport to
altrincham.
Having the hospital adjacent is probably a good thing if we’re building
giant robots.

Also, it has delicious 3 phase for all our industrial machinery needs >:)

Will he throw in the forklift? :wink:

Bob2009/7/2 Andrew Rose rose.andrew@gmail.com

Hi all

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

It is a very good space, is a lot bigger than it looks in the pics.
Secure, has loads of car park space for giant robots or parking
cars… not quite Stockport I know, but it is the best thing for the
price offered I can find. Electricity wise, the owner is willing to
throw in for 10quid a week but I’m sure we can get it included with
the rent of 80pw.

Anyway, what do you think?

320 / 5 = £64pcm each
320 / 10 = £32pcm each
320 / 15 = £21pcm each

Andrew (ody)

3

Hi all

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

It is a very good space, is a lot bigger than it looks in the pics.
Secure, has loads of car park space for giant robots or parking
cars… not quite Stockport I know, but it is the best thing for the
price offered I can find. Electricity wise, the owner is willing to
throw in for 10quid a week but I’m sure we can get it included with
the rent of 80pw.

Anyway, what do you think?

320 / 5 = £64pcm each
320 / 10 = £32pcm each
320 / 15 = £21pcm each

Andrew (ody)

Has anyone had any thoughts on how to ensure the costing over time ? i.e if
15 people are in from the start then its an affordable 21, but if 10 people
drop out and the remaining 5 are in a 12 month contract they’ll have to find
an extra 45 a month ?

Should this thing be run as a company (costco/wholesaler benefits there)?
Anyone got any ideas?

  • cj.
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We have talked about it. The most viable method would be to have
"residents" that are able to commit to paying a set amount each month
for at least a year. The “residents” can re-cope some of the cost by
charging smaller amounts to members that come and go and maybe by
means of a monthly membership fee for anyone that just wants to come
along during the meets. I would assume a coop business model would
work best.2009/7/3 Ciaran ciaranj@gmail.com:

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Andrew Rose rose.andrew@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

It is a very good space, is a lot bigger than it looks in the pics.
Secure, has loads of car park space for giant robots or parking
cars… not quite Stockport I know, but it is the best thing for the
price offered I can find. Electricity wise, the owner is willing to
throw in for 10quid a week but I’m sure we can get it included with
the rent of 80pw.

Anyway, what do you think?

320 / 5 = £64pcm each
320 / 10 = £32pcm each
320 / 15 = £21pcm each

Andrew (ody)

Has anyone had any thoughts on how to ensure the costing over time ? i.e if
15 people are in from the start then its an affordable 21, but if 10 people
drop out and the remaining 5 are in a 12 month contract they’ll have to find
an extra 45 a month ?

Should this thing be run as a company (costco/wholesaler benefits there)?
Anyone got any ideas?

  • cj.
5

The “residents” idea is a good one as long as the location suits it.
Wythenshawe is only a mile or so away from my current office space so
it wouldn’t make much sense for me to pay extra for that one too,
assuming it is suitable. I expect other folk from Stockport would be
in the same boat.

On a less selfish note! It does look like a cool space and 8 miles
from Stockport isn’t too far (I don’t drive) so its definitely a good
find.

Cheers for looking around Andrew!

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Hello Andrew,On Jul 2, 7:27 pm, Andrew Rose rose.and...@gmail.com wrote:

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

What prices are you being quoted, & by whom?

As a community project, the Mill seemed eager to help us
a couple of months ago.

btw Would you like to post something about the Wythenshaw
space on the blog:


Send me your wordpress.com account details & I’ll add you
to the writers there :slight_smile:

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Hello All

Personally, I don’t really have a need for dedicated / shared workshop
space, and together with
consigned finances I am firmly in the meeting times only / pay as you
go camp.

The space in Wythenshawe is a good space with lots of potential,
however…

Don’t get me wrong, the idea of having a 24/7 dedicated space tailored
to the needs of a common
interest group is great, but … perhaps this is an idealized
situation … something to be aimed
for in the longer term.

As Ciaran has alluded to, starting the group is one thing, but
sustaining the group over a longer period
is different again, particularly if it involves a solid financial
commitment.

I would like the group to continue and for it to flourish, but perhaps
there should be a plan “B”

Sorry if this comes across as too negative, which is not my intention.

Regards

MikeOn 3 Jul 2009, at 09:02, Ciaran wrote:

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Andrew Rose rose.andrew@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all

I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

It is a very good space, is a lot bigger than it looks in the pics.
Secure, has loads of car park space for giant robots or parking
cars… not quite Stockport I know, but it is the best thing for the
price offered I can find. Electricity wise, the owner is willing to
throw in for 10quid a week but I’m sure we can get it included with
the rent of 80pw.

Anyway, what do you think?

320 / 5 = £64pcm each
320 / 10 = £32pcm each
320 / 15 = £21pcm each

Andrew (ody)

Has anyone had any thoughts on how to ensure the costing over time ?
i.e if 15 people are in from the start then its an affordable 21,
but if 10 people drop out and the remaining 5 are in a 12 month
contract they’ll have to find an extra 45 a month ?

Should this thing be run as a company (costco/wholesaler benefits
there)? Anyone got any ideas?

  • cj.
8

Personally, I don’t really have a need for dedicated / shared workshop
space, and together with
consigned finances I am firmly in the meeting times only / pay as you
go camp.

The space in Wythenshawe is a good space with lots of potential,
however…

Don’t get me wrong, the idea of having a 24/7 dedicated space tailored
to the needs of a common
interest group is great, but … perhaps this is an idealized
situation … something to be aimed
for in the longer term.

As Ciaran has alluded to, starting the group is one thing, but
sustaining the group over a longer period
is different again, particularly if it involves a solid financial
commitment.

I would like the group to continue and for it to flourish, but perhaps
there should be a plan “B”

Sorry if this comes across as too negative, which is not my intention.

Regards

Mike

9

The “residents” idea is a good one as long as the location suits it.
Wythenshawe is only a mile or so away from my current office space so
it wouldn’t make much sense for me to pay extra for that one too,
assuming it is suitable. I expect other folk from Stockport would be
in the same boat.

On a less selfish note! It does look like a cool space and 8 miles
from Stockport isn’t too far (I don’t drive) so its definitely a good
find.

Cheers for looking around Andrew!

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I’ve had a pretty poor feedback for the Broadstone Mill space and
with the prices I am being quoted it’s simply a no go. So I had a
scout about and came across this place in Wythenshaw:

http://dev.iris.ac/~ody/img/hackspace/ – some pics I took today when
I viewed the place.
http://manchester.gumtree.com/manchester/02/34195602.html

That’s probably a bit far for me in general (I don’t drive), but looks
alright. I could use it as a base for mapping the area, which seems
pretty sparse on OpenStreetMap1. :wink:

Do we get to keep the forklift?

Simon
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that works.—John Gall

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Well done Andrew for finding this place.

The actual place itself looks very cool. Very cool indeed.

However…

It does seem to me to be quite a way from Stockport. I drive so it’s
not a problem for me, but the #11 bus which stops closest to the place
takes 50 minutes from Stockport - is this going to put people off? the
#370 is 30 mins on the bus, then a 15 minute walk. Obviously we have
to try and be as attractive as possible to secure members.

As for rent - My current employment situation dictates that I wouldn’t
be able to cover for a lack of members, although that could well
change when I get a new job.

On a lighter note, TV fans may be intrigued to know that this place is
about 100 metres from the studio where they film Shameless, complete
with fake houses built on a backlot!
http://www.ukonscreen.com/_crap/shame.jpg