Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called the
MakerArm:
I think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have been
taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is there
ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be double
that amount.
Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
amount at 299k.
Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
I think if we were going for this, we’d really need to go for the full head
pack, as everyone would want somthing different from it - this would push
the price up, but would still be cheaper than buying the heads seperately.
ChrisOn 31 Oct 2015 21:18, “rich op” richop88@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
I think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
amount at 299k.Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
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I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed compared
to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion prints
looking at the vids
From a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s going
to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus there’s
the laser
This leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering head,
resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished, although
bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)
RichardOn Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
amount at 299k.Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.
AlexOn Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlicbready@googlemail.com> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s going
to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus there’s
the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering head,
resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
amount at 299k.Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
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All valid points, I was mainly excited about the solder-paste dispensing,
pick and place assembly and automated soldering.
I think the size could be beneficial, easy to store and move. You guys are
right, it may do tasks in a lighter-weight league compared to it’s
individual counterparts.
I think it works out in the cost/benefit analysis, due the amount of tasks
this thing can double as, and if we split it the cost between a group and
say chuck £90, wait a year, hardly any risk if it doesn’t get funded and
could be surprisingly beneficial to have a futuristic robot hand helping
out.
I’m not sure I’m getting the point across so here’s ROBOT ARMS in capital
letters.On 1 November 2015 at 09:13, Alexander Lang alexanderlang1980@gmail.com wrote:
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.Alex
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlicbready@googlemail.com> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s going
to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus there’s
the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering
head, resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
amount at 299k.Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
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Sorry no dice!
Got a robot arm. Don’t need another and don’t have £90 to punt on a
kickstarter which may or may not perform well enough for my requirements.On 1 November 2015 at 15:10, rich op richop88@gmail.com wrote:
All valid points, I was mainly excited about the solder-paste dispensing,
pick and place assembly and automated soldering.I think the size could be beneficial, easy to store and move. You guys are
right, it may do tasks in a lighter-weight league compared to it’s
individual counterparts.I think it works out in the cost/benefit analysis, due the amount of tasks
this thing can double as, and if we split it the cost between a group and
say chuck £90, wait a year, hardly any risk if it doesn’t get funded and
could be surprisingly beneficial to have a futuristic robot hand helping
out.I’m not sure I’m getting the point across so here’s ROBOT ARMS in capital
letters.On 1 November 2015 at 09:13, Alexander Lang alexanderlang1980@gmail.com wrote:
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.Alex
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlicbready@googlemail.com> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s
going to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus
there’s the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering
head, resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
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There is a wishilist located over here you could add to
http://wiki.hacman.org.uk/Tools_Wishlist
One of the things I’m working on as a home project (once it arrives) is a
ooznest cnc ox which is a large area cnc.
It uses v-slot which means it’s very easy to swap or add custom heads using
T Nuts and M5 screws.
It’s also a lot cheaper and has a larger area (metal frame plus motors,
minus electronics or heads equals £650 for 500mm x 750mm)
What I’d like to see is one of these located in the space (once we have the
room for it in version 3 of the hacspace next year)
But just not for cncing but for also all of the things you’ve mentioned
below such as solder paste pick and place etc.
Ideas I’ve come up with so far include
PHR803-T dvdrw head for exposing UV sensitive PCB’s
There’s no pre-written software for special heads of course, but figuring
that out is part of the fun :)On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:10:37 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
All valid points, I was mainly excited about the solder-paste dispensing,
pick and place assembly and automated soldering.I think the size could be beneficial, easy to store and move. You guys are
right, it may do tasks in a lighter-weight league compared to it’s
individual counterparts.I think it works out in the cost/benefit analysis, due the amount of tasks
this thing can double as, and if we split it the cost between a group and
say chuck £90, wait a year, hardly any risk if it doesn’t get funded and
could be surprisingly beneficial to have a futuristic robot hand helping
out.I’m not sure I’m getting the point across so here’s ROBOT ARMS in capital
letters.On 1 November 2015 at 09:13, Alexander Lang <alexande...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.Alex
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlic...@googlemail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s
going to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus
there’s the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering
head, resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument called
the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the current
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Rich you’re a legend, that’s some excellent research. EDM video was pretty
hilarious, “this will blow you freaking mind”, that the solder paste
dispenser really caught me, nice find:
Unfortunately he’s not selling the PCB’s anymore on Tindie.
£90! I think I’ve spent more on genuine article Arduino’s over the years!
I get that you guys are instrument builders, it seemed to me funding this
project would give easier access to start playing the instrument. I don’t
build a guitar from scratch when I want to play some sweet jams, but then
again I could just be a conditioned product of the iPod generation!On 1 November 2015 at 17:56, garlicbread (Richard) < garlicbready@googlemail.com> wrote:
There is a wishilist located over here you could add to
http://wiki.hacman.org.uk/Tools_WishlistOne of the things I’m working on as a home project (once it arrives) is a
ooznest cnc ox which is a large area cnc.
It uses v-slot which means it’s very easy to swap or add custom heads
using T Nuts and M5 screws.
It’s also a lot cheaper and has a larger area (metal frame plus motors,
minus electronics or heads equals £650 for 500mm x 750mm)What I’d like to see is one of these located in the space (once we have
the room for it in version 3 of the hacspace next year)
But just not for cncing but for also all of the things you’ve mentioned
below such as solder paste pick and place etc.Ideas I’ve come up with so far include
PHR803-T dvdrw head for exposing UV sensitive PCB’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9WxdGmGvyY
EDM metal machining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKreZqgi9M
machining out a Bulldog extruder for 3d printing
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:215457
solder paste dispenser http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:384680
multi coloured ring light / bracket for a usb microsope / camera
holder for a small spray paint gunThere’s no pre-written software for special heads of course, but figuring
that out is part of the funOn Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:10:37 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
All valid points, I was mainly excited about the solder-paste dispensing,
pick and place assembly and automated soldering.I think the size could be beneficial, easy to store and move. You guys
are right, it may do tasks in a lighter-weight league compared to it’s
individual counterparts.I think it works out in the cost/benefit analysis, due the amount of
tasks this thing can double as, and if we split it the cost between a group
and say chuck £90, wait a year, hardly any risk if it doesn’t get funded
and could be surprisingly beneficial to have a futuristic robot hand
helping out.I’m not sure I’m getting the point across so here’s ROBOT ARMS in capital
letters.On 1 November 2015 at 09:13, Alexander Lang alexande...@gmail.com wrote:
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.Alex
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlic...@googlemail.com> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for light
engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s
going to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus
there’s the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering
head, resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument
called the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers have
been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900, is
there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would be
double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the
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One critical thing you’d have to ask is, does it support G-Code?
because of the way the arm moves on a curve does the firmware support
translating G-code into motion
do you need to use the MakerArm software to do this?
Just to give some examples of how you might use it
for 3d printing
a. Create a 3D model (Solidworks / Sketchup / OpenSCad etc)
b. Export as a stl file 3D model mesh
c. Run it through a slicer to generate G-Code to move the bot (e.g.
Slic3r / Cura)
d. Run the G-Code on the bot to do the biz / print (In this case the
MakerArm software)
For CNCing - example 1 (free software)
a. Create a svg vector model (inkscape)
b. Generate the G-Code for the cutting using JSCut
c. Run the G-code to do the cut (can MakerArm software do this? would
Chillipepr be an option?)
For CNCing - example 2 (comerical software)
a. Create a 3D Model (solidworks)
b. use SolidCam or CamWorks to generate tool paths, and G-code (would
probably need a pre-processor written)
c. Run the G-code to do the cut (can MakerArm software do this? would
Chillipepr be an option?)
G-code seems to be the common standard between different cutting and
printing softwares operating over a serial port
(there’s also a json format used in TinyG)
I think they need to post more info on they’re site with regards to the
software (for example is the motion control use S-shaped ramping for
smoother control?)
If it does support G-Code over a serial port then potentially it opens it
up to all the common software tools in use at the momentOn Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 4:14:15 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Rich you’re a legend, that’s some excellent research. EDM video was pretty
hilarious, “this will blow you freaking mind”, that the solder paste
dispenser really caught me, nice find:
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:384680
Unfortunately he’s not selling the PCB’s anymore on Tindie.£90! I think I’ve spent more on genuine article Arduino’s over the years!
I get that you guys are instrument builders, it seemed to me funding this
project would give easier access to start playing the instrument. I don’t
build a guitar from scratch when I want to play some sweet jams, but then
again I could just be a conditioned product of the iPod generation!On 1 November 2015 at 17:56, garlicbread (Richard) < garlic...@googlemail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
There is a wishilist located over here you could add to
http://wiki.hacman.org.uk/Tools_WishlistOne of the things I’m working on as a home project (once it arrives) is a
ooznest cnc ox which is a large area cnc.
It uses v-slot which means it’s very easy to swap or add custom heads
using T Nuts and M5 screws.
It’s also a lot cheaper and has a larger area (metal frame plus motors,
minus electronics or heads equals £650 for 500mm x 750mm)What I’d like to see is one of these located in the space (once we have
the room for it in version 3 of the hacspace next year)
But just not for cncing but for also all of the things you’ve mentioned
below such as solder paste pick and place etc.Ideas I’ve come up with so far include
PHR803-T dvdrw head for exposing UV sensitive PCB’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9WxdGmGvyY
EDM metal machining https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeKreZqgi9M
machining out a Bulldog extruder for 3d printing
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:215457
solder paste dispenser http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:384680
multi coloured ring light / bracket for a usb microsope / camera
holder for a small spray paint gunThere’s no pre-written software for special heads of course, but figuring
that out is part of the funOn Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:10:37 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
All valid points, I was mainly excited about the solder-paste
dispensing, pick and place assembly and automated soldering.I think the size could be beneficial, easy to store and move. You guys
are right, it may do tasks in a lighter-weight league compared to it’s
individual counterparts.I think it works out in the cost/benefit analysis, due the amount of
tasks this thing can double as, and if we split it the cost between a group
and say chuck £90, wait a year, hardly any risk if it doesn’t get funded
and could be surprisingly beneficial to have a futuristic robot hand
helping out.I’m not sure I’m getting the point across so here’s ROBOT ARMS in
capital letters.On 1 November 2015 at 09:13, Alexander Lang alexande...@gmail.com wrote:
I’m afraid I’m not on board either. I’m with Richard (garlicbread). It
doesn’t look like it has the chops to be useful - it’s a nice idea but it
doesn’t look rigid enough.Alex
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 1:34 am garlicbread (Richard) < garlic...@googlemail.com> wrote:
I suspect it’s a bit too small for what it is
For 3D printing it looks as if it’s main limitation might be speed
compared to a conventional carteasen bot
so it’d work but I think you’d end up with a long wait for extrusion
prints looking at the vidsFrom a cncing poit of view it’s only going to be rigid enough for
light engraving, or cutting at a slow speed
looking at the vid they’re only removing 0.2mm on each pass so it’s
going to be slow without a big bulky frame or large beefy motors
It can be used for milling and drilling pcb’s but we already have the
proxon and the roland cnc I think Jim is working on
which should be able to mill deeper and faster I’m guessing, plus
there’s the laserThis leaves pick and place, foam wax cutter, screw driver, soldering
head, resin printer (needs a seperate dlp projector)
and the fact the software may be a bit more integrated / polished,
although bearing in mind it is a kick starter.
(also does the $1399 include 20% vat?)Richard
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 9:18:16 PM UTC, rich op wrote:
Hi guys,
I’ve seen this kickstarter for a seemingly next level instrument
called the MakerArm:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1849283018/makerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything
https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickstarter.com%2Fprojects%2F1849283018%2Fmakerarm-the-first-robotic-arm-that-makes-anything&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH1lE0E1W70A3OubsrFOGHd0QA1cAI think would be amazing to have in the space, most funding tiers
have been taken already, and the cheapest one left is at $1399 around £900,
is there ten of us that want to put in £90 each? Normal retail price would
be double that amount.Ten days to go and they look on target to get the 350k with the
current amount at 299k.Is anyone interested in joining in for a group buy on this?
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