PAT testing

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate of
mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.

There is a PAT tester in the space…and it works etc.

PAT stands for portable appliance test. These are a series of tests to
prove that a piece of mains powered electrical equipment is safe to
use…it tests the earth bond (check that earth is present and it can carry
the fault current) - if applicable, check that live and neutral aren’t
connected together and check that there is no leakage from parts a person
can touch and the mains.

Any correctly CE marked brand new power supply should pass a PAT test and
come with documents to prove that (normally in the instruction manual
somewhere).

All you need to do is buy a brand new power supply with your electronics
and provide the documentation and you meet electrical safety laws without a
PAT test. However what you supply must ensure that using the system is safe
and that in the event of an issue your system will fail in a safe manner.

In other words ensure that the power supply you use is correctly rated for
the system and is electrically safe with paperwork to prove it. You then
need to if you are putting it into service need to declare it as safe,
meeting the requirements of LVD directive (electrical safety) and EMC
directive - doesn’t give off radio noise and can take radio noise without
issue.

In short you shouldn’t need to pat test your system…but you can do if
needed.

AlexOn Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:24 pm Nathan Hickling unfoundbug@gmail.com wrote:

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate of
mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.


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Policy for the event this will be going to is EVERYTHING must pass PAT
testing, even if new. It makes sense, expecting over 1000 people thereOn Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:44:32 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

There is a PAT tester in the space…and it works etc.

PAT stands for portable appliance test. These are a series of tests to
prove that a piece of mains powered electrical equipment is safe to
use…it tests the earth bond (check that earth is present and it can carry
the fault current) - if applicable, check that live and neutral aren’t
connected together and check that there is no leakage from parts a person
can touch and the mains.

Any correctly CE marked brand new power supply should pass a PAT test and
come with documents to prove that (normally in the instruction manual
somewhere).

All you need to do is buy a brand new power supply with your electronics
and provide the documentation and you meet electrical safety laws without a
PAT test. However what you supply must ensure that using the system is safe
and that in the event of an issue your system will fail in a safe manner.

In other words ensure that the power supply you use is correctly rated for
the system and is electrically safe with paperwork to prove it. You then
need to if you are putting it into service need to declare it as safe,
meeting the requirements of LVD directive (electrical safety) and EMC
directive - doesn’t give off radio noise and can take radio noise without
issue.

In short you shouldn’t need to pat test your system…but you can do if
needed.

Alex

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:24 pm Nathan Hickling <unfou...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate of
mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.


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Fair enough…PAT Test the power supply you are going to use and stick a
tested for electrical safety sticker on it and carry on. Will take all of
five minutes:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-PAT-Test-Passed-Labels-24-x-50mm-Stickers-/300968764136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item461322e2e8

Best of luck! You coming to the space tonight?

AlexOn 8 July 2015 at 11:24, Nathan Hickling unfoundbug@gmail.com wrote:

Policy for the event this will be going to is EVERYTHING must pass PAT
testing, even if new. It makes sense, expecting over 1000 people there

On Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:44:32 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

There is a PAT tester in the space…and it works etc.

PAT stands for portable appliance test. These are a series of tests to
prove that a piece of mains powered electrical equipment is safe to
use…it tests the earth bond (check that earth is present and it can carry
the fault current) - if applicable, check that live and neutral aren’t
connected together and check that there is no leakage from parts a person
can touch and the mains.

Any correctly CE marked brand new power supply should pass a PAT test and
come with documents to prove that (normally in the instruction manual
somewhere).

All you need to do is buy a brand new power supply with your electronics
and provide the documentation and you meet electrical safety laws without a
PAT test. However what you supply must ensure that using the system is safe
and that in the event of an issue your system will fail in a safe manner.

In other words ensure that the power supply you use is correctly rated
for the system and is electrically safe with paperwork to prove it. You
then need to if you are putting it into service need to declare it as safe,
meeting the requirements of LVD directive (electrical safety) and EMC
directive - doesn’t give off radio noise and can take radio noise without
issue.

In short you shouldn’t need to pat test your system…but you can do if
needed.

Alex

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:24 pm Nathan Hickling unfou...@gmail.com wrote:

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate
of mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.


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Yup, hoping to check out what supplies there are available for when i order
the first strip. Wanting to actually test the current use before ordering a
power supply too big/too smallOn Wednesday, 8 July 2015 11:40:11 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

Fair enough…PAT Test the power supply you are going to use and stick a
tested for electrical safety sticker on it and carry on. Will take all of
five minutes:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-PAT-Test-Passed-Labels-24-x-50mm-Stickers-/300968764136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item461322e2e8

Best of luck! You coming to the space tonight?

Alex

On 8 July 2015 at 11:24, Nathan Hickling <unfou...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:

Policy for the event this will be going to is EVERYTHING must pass PAT
testing, even if new. It makes sense, expecting over 1000 people there

On Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:44:32 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

There is a PAT tester in the space…and it works etc.

PAT stands for portable appliance test. These are a series of tests to
prove that a piece of mains powered electrical equipment is safe to
use…it tests the earth bond (check that earth is present and it can carry
the fault current) - if applicable, check that live and neutral aren’t
connected together and check that there is no leakage from parts a person
can touch and the mains.

Any correctly CE marked brand new power supply should pass a PAT test
and come with documents to prove that (normally in the instruction manual
somewhere).

All you need to do is buy a brand new power supply with your electronics
and provide the documentation and you meet electrical safety laws without a
PAT test. However what you supply must ensure that using the system is safe
and that in the event of an issue your system will fail in a safe manner.

In other words ensure that the power supply you use is correctly rated
for the system and is electrically safe with paperwork to prove it. You
then need to if you are putting it into service need to declare it as safe,
meeting the requirements of LVD directive (electrical safety) and EMC
directive - doesn’t give off radio noise and can take radio noise without
issue.

In short you shouldn’t need to pat test your system…but you can do if
needed.

Alex

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:24 pm Nathan Hickling unfou...@gmail.com wrote:

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate
of mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.


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Use the 5A bench PSU which has a current meter on the front of it and a
current limit adjust knob - job done!On 8 July 2015 at 11:49, Nathan Hickling unfoundbug@gmail.com wrote:

Yup, hoping to check out what supplies there are available for when i
order the first strip. Wanting to actually test the current use before
ordering a power supply too big/too small

On Wednesday, 8 July 2015 11:40:11 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

Fair enough…PAT Test the power supply you are going to use and stick a
tested for electrical safety sticker on it and carry on. Will take all of
five minutes:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/20-PAT-Test-Passed-Labels-24-x-50mm-Stickers-/300968764136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item461322e2e8

Best of luck! You coming to the space tonight?

Alex

On 8 July 2015 at 11:24, Nathan Hickling unfou...@gmail.com wrote:

Policy for the event this will be going to is EVERYTHING must pass PAT
testing, even if new. It makes sense, expecting over 1000 people there

On Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:44:32 UTC+1, Alexander Lang wrote:

There is a PAT tester in the space…and it works etc.

PAT stands for portable appliance test. These are a series of tests to
prove that a piece of mains powered electrical equipment is safe to
use…it tests the earth bond (check that earth is present and it can carry
the fault current) - if applicable, check that live and neutral aren’t
connected together and check that there is no leakage from parts a person
can touch and the mains.

Any correctly CE marked brand new power supply should pass a PAT test
and come with documents to prove that (normally in the instruction manual
somewhere).

All you need to do is buy a brand new power supply with your
electronics and provide the documentation and you meet electrical safety
laws without a PAT test. However what you supply must ensure that using the
system is safe and that in the event of an issue your system will fail in a
safe manner.

In other words ensure that the power supply you use is correctly rated
for the system and is electrically safe with paperwork to prove it. You
then need to if you are putting it into service need to declare it as safe,
meeting the requirements of LVD directive (electrical safety) and EMC
directive - doesn’t give off radio noise and can take radio noise without
issue.

In short you shouldn’t need to pat test your system…but you can do if
needed.

Alex

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:24 pm Nathan Hickling unfou...@gmail.com wrote:

Don’t suppose we have access to a PAT tester within the space? A mate
of mine wants to use the LED controller I built with the wifi module on a
stage, which means it needs to pass PAT testing, the power supplies should
be fine, but I need to make sure WELL ahead of time I can make a unit which
will pass.


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