Please can someone sort a hack-the-space day?

Hi All,

Due to recent health issues, i’ve not been able to do as much buildout work
at our new space as i was planning.

Unfortunately this means not much has been getting done regarding sorting
out or organizing our new space. While there is (limited) budget available
for buildout work, i don’t have the ability to do anything regarding
actually sorting it right now.

Please can someone (or multiple people, even better!) help out with
organizing some or all of the following:

  • Move shelves from middle of room to somewhere more sensible - I
    suggest where members storage will eventually be.
  • Price up building internal stud walls - If this proves to be too
    expensive we can probably figure something out with simple partitions but
    walls would be better!
  • Organize things on shelves and floor into sensible segments (crafty
    stuff near craft corner, electronicsy stuff near electronics bench etc).
    Right now things have been shoved onto shelves to get them out of the way,
    but need actually sorting.
  • Electricity needs running to laser cutter / electronics bench wall.
  • Sort sofa and ‘soft’ chairs into corner where snackspace currently is,
    moving snackspace along that wall a bit.
  • Assemble the grey workshop bench and put it next to the electronics
    bench - This is for the ‘metalworking’ drill press and CNC machines
  • Paint the walls. Theres decorating equipment and a big tub of white
    paint in the space… somewhere.
  • Label where things should go, as things are currently not being put
    away and the entire space is a mess.
  • Sort out ‘bench’ tools we don’t have a permanent space for, put them
    under the workshop ‘central bench’
  • Run a network cable from the comms cabinet to the big metal door - for
    the access control system. This only has to be a temporary installation as
    once its ‘haccessed’ it will be on the wifi.
  • Bag up the pile of builder-rubbish and MDF outside the space door and
    take it down to the bins round the side of the building.

Thanks!
Bob

Hi Bob,

I’ve been asking my dad about pricing up the studding for the new space
Some of it will depend on the available budget and how high we want to go
etc
there’s quite a few variables and unknowns so that’s why this is a bit long

As an initial starting point to keep it as cheap we can, for about
£400-£450 we could do a partition all the way around about 8 foot high
There would be a minimum of 4 stanchions that would go to the top (4x2)
If we wanted to make it bigger later on, then there would be room for
messing about with additional studding / adding on additional panels at a
later date
this doesn’t include cost of doors / hinges etc

Making the walls go all the way to the top is going to increase the cost
His thoughts were that even with the double glazing we may have a lot of
problems with heating, I admit others may be more knowledgeable than me on
that one
A couple of ideas included a grid of 2x2 and some plasterboard over the top
to lower the height to 8ft and help keep the heating in
if you wanted to go really cheap then a sheet of plastic over the top to
let the light through and keep the heat at a lower level might be an idea
as a temporary fix

For the thickness of the studding he advised that we shouldn’t go thinner
than 4x2 otherwise the end result might be a bit on the wobbly / crap side
Also we can double purpose the studding as a mini shelves this way as well

For the doors I’m not sure if you want to leave that until later on because
of the budget etc
On trello there were a few different opinions that I wasn’t sure about such
as if we want / need / have enough money for fire doors
and if they all or some need to be wide enough for wheelchair access

Cheshire Reclamation might be a good place to look for cheap doors of
different types
The last time we checked they had some real big heavy fire ones for about
£40, they’ve probably got some non-fire ones as well
I think they’ve got a lot of stuff not listed on the website

I’ve got access to a trailer for bringing bits in depending on what folks
want wood wise
and there’s a place on winmil street in macc that might have some cheaper
wood we can use depending on what folks wantOn Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:23:05 PM UTC+1, bob wrote:

Hi All,

Due to recent health issues, i’ve not been able to do as much buildout
work at our new space as i was planning.

Unfortunately this means not much has been getting done regarding sorting
out or organizing our new space. While there is (limited) budget available
for buildout work, i don’t have the ability to do anything regarding
actually sorting it right now.

Please can someone (or multiple people, even better!) help out with
organizing some or all of the following:

  • Move shelves from middle of room to somewhere more sensible - I
    suggest where members storage will eventually be.
  • Price up building internal stud walls - If this proves to be too
    expensive we can probably figure something out with simple partitions but
    walls would be better!
  • Organize things on shelves and floor into sensible segments (crafty
    stuff near craft corner, electronicsy stuff near electronics bench etc).
    Right now things have been shoved onto shelves to get them out of the way,
    but need actually sorting.
  • Electricity needs running to laser cutter / electronics bench wall.
  • Sort sofa and ‘soft’ chairs into corner where snackspace currently
    is, moving snackspace along that wall a bit.
  • Assemble the grey workshop bench and put it next to the electronics
    bench - This is for the ‘metalworking’ drill press and CNC machines
  • Paint the walls. Theres decorating equipment and a big tub of white
    paint in the space… somewhere.
  • Label where things should go, as things are currently not being put
    away and the entire space is a mess.
  • Sort out ‘bench’ tools we don’t have a permanent space for, put them
    under the workshop ‘central bench’
  • Run a network cable from the comms cabinet to the big metal door -
    for the access control system. This only has to be a temporary
    installation as once its ‘haccessed’ it will be on the wifi.
  • Bag up the pile of builder-rubbish and MDF outside the space door
    and take it down to the bins round the side of the building.

Thanks!
Bob

Pretty sure we’ve agreed that the metal/wood shop areas don’t need to go
all the way.
It would also mean we can fit new lighting easier (led panels or led
downlights?)

Given the previous unit, we may be a bit better off with the thicker walls
and not having a tin roof directly above uis.On 6 May 2016 at 15:56, ‘garlicbread (Richard)’ via Hackspace Manchester < hacman@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Bob,

I’ve been asking my dad about pricing up the studding for the new space
Some of it will depend on the available budget and how high we want to go
etc
there’s quite a few variables and unknowns so that’s why this is a bit long

As an initial starting point to keep it as cheap we can, for about
£400-£450 we could do a partition all the way around about 8 foot high
There would be a minimum of 4 stanchions that would go to the top (4x2)
If we wanted to make it bigger later on, then there would be room for
messing about with additional studding / adding on additional panels at a
later date
this doesn’t include cost of doors / hinges etc

Making the walls go all the way to the top is going to increase the cost
His thoughts were that even with the double glazing we may have a lot of
problems with heating, I admit others may be more knowledgeable than me on
that one
A couple of ideas included a grid of 2x2 and some plasterboard over the
top to lower the height to 8ft and help keep the heating in
if you wanted to go really cheap then a sheet of plastic over the top to
let the light through and keep the heat at a lower level might be an idea
as a temporary fix

For the thickness of the studding he advised that we shouldn’t go thinner
than 4x2 otherwise the end result might be a bit on the wobbly / crap side
Also we can double purpose the studding as a mini shelves this way as well

For the doors I’m not sure if you want to leave that until later on
because of the budget etc
On trello there were a few different opinions that I wasn’t sure about
such as if we want / need / have enough money for fire doors
and if they all or some need to be wide enough for wheelchair access

Cheshire Reclamation might be a good place to look for cheap doors of
different types
The last time we checked they had some real big heavy fire ones for about
£40, they’ve probably got some non-fire ones as well
I think they’ve got a lot of stuff not listed on the website

I’ve got access to a trailer for bringing bits in depending on what folks
want wood wise
and there’s a place on winmil street in macc that might have some cheaper
wood we can use depending on what folks want

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:23:05 PM UTC+1, bob wrote:

Hi All,

Due to recent health issues, i’ve not been able to do as much buildout
work at our new space as i was planning.

Unfortunately this means not much has been getting done regarding sorting
out or organizing our new space. While there is (limited) budget available
for buildout work, i don’t have the ability to do anything regarding
actually sorting it right now.

Please can someone (or multiple people, even better!) help out with
organizing some or all of the following:

  • Move shelves from middle of room to somewhere more sensible - I
    suggest where members storage will eventually be.
  • Price up building internal stud walls - If this proves to be too
    expensive we can probably figure something out with simple partitions but
    walls would be better!
  • Organize things on shelves and floor into sensible segments (crafty
    stuff near craft corner, electronicsy stuff near electronics bench etc).
    Right now things have been shoved onto shelves to get them out of the way,
    but need actually sorting.
  • Electricity needs running to laser cutter / electronics bench wall.
  • Sort sofa and ‘soft’ chairs into corner where snackspace currently
    is, moving snackspace along that wall a bit.
  • Assemble the grey workshop bench and put it next to the electronics
    bench - This is for the ‘metalworking’ drill press and CNC machines
  • Paint the walls. Theres decorating equipment and a big tub of
    white paint in the space… somewhere.
  • Label where things should go, as things are currently not being put
    away and the entire space is a mess.
  • Sort out ‘bench’ tools we don’t have a permanent space for, put
    them under the workshop ‘central bench’
  • Run a network cable from the comms cabinet to the big metal door -
    for the access control system. This only has to be a temporary
    installation as once its ‘haccessed’ it will be on the wifi.
  • Bag up the pile of builder-rubbish and MDF outside the space door
    and take it down to the bins round the side of the building.

Thanks!
Bob


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Hi Bob,
I’m not sure if we want any permanent metal ladders for the new space (I’ll
be loaning some for painting the ceiling)
But they had a load of metal ones down at Macclesfield reclamation

It might be an idea to have a look at them later on at the same time that
we get the doors for the inner partitions
There’s a big stack of doors down there so an idea might be for someone to
pick out what they want so I can bring them in on the trailerOn Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 4:23:05 PM UTC+1, bob wrote:

Hi All,

Due to recent health issues, i’ve not been able to do as much buildout
work at our new space as i was planning.

Unfortunately this means not much has been getting done regarding sorting
out or organizing our new space. While there is (limited) budget available
for buildout work, i don’t have the ability to do anything regarding
actually sorting it right now.

Please can someone (or multiple people, even better!) help out with
organizing some or all of the following:

  • Move shelves from middle of room to somewhere more sensible - I
    suggest where members storage will eventually be.
  • Price up building internal stud walls - If this proves to be too
    expensive we can probably figure something out with simple partitions but
    walls would be better!
  • Organize things on shelves and floor into sensible segments (crafty
    stuff near craft corner, electronicsy stuff near electronics bench etc).
    Right now things have been shoved onto shelves to get them out of the way,
    but need actually sorting.
  • Electricity needs running to laser cutter / electronics bench wall.
  • Sort sofa and ‘soft’ chairs into corner where snackspace currently
    is, moving snackspace along that wall a bit.
  • Assemble the grey workshop bench and put it next to the electronics
    bench - This is for the ‘metalworking’ drill press and CNC machines
  • Paint the walls. Theres decorating equipment and a big tub of white
    paint in the space… somewhere.
  • Label where things should go, as things are currently not being put
    away and the entire space is a mess.
  • Sort out ‘bench’ tools we don’t have a permanent space for, put them
    under the workshop ‘central bench’
  • Run a network cable from the comms cabinet to the big metal door -
    for the access control system. This only has to be a temporary
    installation as once its ‘haccessed’ it will be on the wifi.
  • Bag up the pile of builder-rubbish and MDF outside the space door
    and take it down to the bins round the side of the building.

Thanks!
Bob