Recently we had a members meeting on the 03/04/2021
One of the topics of conversation at the time that came up was the one surrounding members storage. This might be perceived as a bit of a rant, although I’ve tried to be as respectful as possible with the below, since I know the board is purely done on a volunteer basis (they don’t get paid for it) and is a lot of hard work.
One thing that worries me somewhat is that the new shelving is wall mounted.
I do not believe this is safe, I think it’s inheritntly unsafe and short sighted since we’re going to get all sorts of “members”
putting stuff up there without bothering to judge / evaluate the weight. (which I think it limited to 40Kg per slot), bearing in mind the weight is accumulative per column.
and no way to police or restrict the weights of items put up there.
Also I see no clear advantage over the traditional metal shelving we already have (not the tiny crappy wooden cubicles) or practical reason to do this.
Another problem is that you’re going to totally wreck the plasterboard against the wall of woody dusty with stuff being pushed / shoved into it constantly.
Ideally you need a sheet of OSB or something to protect the plasterboard.
Something to bear in mind it’s that it’s not just the weight the shelving will support, it’s also what the wall will support as well
(I’m talking about the woody dusty plasterboard wall).
Ideally it should be something free standing and away from the plasterboard wall or at least protect the plasterboard.
Some of the board members such as Rossy came across as quite apologetic which I’m happy with (I’m trying to be sympathetic after dealing with office politics myself)
but one of the attitudes that was presented by certain members that irked me quite a bit was
“we’re not going to recommend a specific size of box in case we need to shrink it down again in the future”
which comes across as “not my problem jack”
Even if you’re not going to recommend a standard size of box (which is fine)
One of the first steps before deciding on shelving is, lets google to see what kind of boxes we “want” to fit on the shelves
even if we’re not going to recommend a specific one, just to try and encourage shit not to be everywhere loose.
Do not present this as someone else’s problem, if your going to create a problem for members by doing this then at least put some effort in to resolve it.
A lot of members simply don’t bother putting anything in a box at all and if we want to encourage that, we should be making that as easy as possible.
(even if you are not recommending a standard size box)
It’s also penalising those of us that have gone to the trouble of being tidy in the past which really really irks me given how much of a mess the place is.
I should probably add that the eco crate might fit on the new shelving but we’re not even sure of that at this stage
Some uncertainty was expressed about the overall volume that will be available
Let me make a suggestions here, put on 2 or 3 of those shelving pieces, but them on or just rest them on the brackets, take a tape measure then measure that.
Then put it on an official announcement as quick as possible so some of us can plan ahead.
Also try and make that a priority given all the dicking about that’s happened so far.
Also please don’t even suggest we’re gaining space from this such as 119.34%, those tiny crappy cubicles in the existing storage were just what we had lying around, they did not represent any official “standard” to the best of my knowledge.
If you want more of a hostile reaction to an official announcement (if you want to annoy and piss people off) then by all means put that in the mail because it’s really not true.
From my own personal experience, first I was told to ignore the draft email on the mailing list, then I was told not to worry on telegram and that a 64L box was fine, then more recently I’ve been told actually it is going to be an issue in the latest members meeting and that I’ll have to move to a tiny box.
We really need some clarity on this in terms of actual sizes.
Thoughts moving forwards
Next we have a ton and I mean a ton of space more compared to what we used to have in hacman2 in the northern quarter
It’s also true we have more members, but when I look around at all the crap piled in corners in the space such as the old radios on a shelf left by Britain.
This begs the question why not just make members storage bigger in the first place?
Take the existing metal shelving units we have behind the bar and put them opposite the new wall shelves in the middle of the room.
I’ve not seen anyone use the area in front of the bar for things other than a dumping ground ever since we moved snackspace out of that area.
The approach of “we have more members so are going to shrink the storage down” is not acceptable when we have all this space and junk we could remove.
I most definitely will not be moving to a 35L box as was suggested in one of the draft emails on the mailing list.
At this stage even a compromise of trying to get something for the new shelving isn’t possible since we’re not even certain what space is going to be available yet.
I would encourage some form of official announcement and deceleration of actual size as soon as possible
although given the way this has handled and so far I’m tempted myself to make no effort to change out of protest, not even bother to compromise at this stage
I’m also tempted to give some serious considering to being a member of the space moving forwards.
bearing in mind some of the existing members have even more crap than I’ve got piled up, not even in a box but completely loose lying around all over the place / all over the floor.